1 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,750 Drop 461 (Jan 4 2018) 2 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:25,670 What makes a movie GOOD? 3 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:29,380 GREAT actors? 4 00:01:40,330 --> 00:01:44,670 Starting in the '90s, Italy was in the grips of a satanic panic. 5 00:01:44,790 --> 00:01:48,500 Gruesome stories of satanic orgies involving children 6 00:01:48,580 --> 00:01:50,750 resulted in mass hysteria. 7 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,710 It was fueled by the media, and opportunistic officials. 8 00:01:54,790 --> 00:01:58,130 The only problem? It was fake. 9 00:02:00,330 --> 00:02:03,750 That's when an anonymous collective, known as Luther Blissett, 10 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:05,880 managed to unwind some of the craze. 11 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,630 By doing something even crazier. 12 00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:11,130 They invented a fake satanic cult, 13 00:02:11,210 --> 00:02:15,080 sent out videotapes of their human sacrifices to the media. 14 00:02:15,170 --> 00:02:18,670 And after the media published the tapes, 15 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:22,540 they released the real tape, showing it was a ruse. 16 00:02:29,460 --> 00:02:31,330 TRIESTE, ITALY 17 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:33,460 One of the primary architects of that movement 18 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:36,290 was the co-author of a book entitled Q. 19 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:42,920 In it, the titular character, Q, is an anonymous person 20 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,380 spying on the rebels and feeding intel to the pope. 21 00:02:46,460 --> 00:02:49,670 In other words, Q is the bad guy. 22 00:02:51,580 --> 00:02:54,920 Had the persona behind QAnon read this book? 23 00:02:57,500 --> 00:03:01,290 Was QAnon just Luther Blissett's latest stunt? 24 00:03:02,210 --> 00:03:04,750 Or was it all simply a coincidence? 25 00:03:05,460 --> 00:03:08,290 One of the authors of the book agreed to be interviewed, 26 00:03:08,420 --> 00:03:11,580 under the condition that he imposes on all recorded interactions. 27 00:03:11,710 --> 00:03:14,920 I wouldn't be allowed to reveal his face. 28 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,790 So, you wrote this book, Q. 29 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,210 When you look in this book, what are the parallels 30 00:03:21,290 --> 00:03:25,580 between the Q that you wrote about and QAnon? 31 00:03:26,670 --> 00:03:30,880 Secret messages signed Q. 32 00:03:31,790 --> 00:03:36,330 And this Q presents himself or herself 33 00:03:36,420 --> 00:03:39,170 as being at the top level of power 34 00:03:39,250 --> 00:03:44,670 who has important information about the inner workings of the system. 35 00:03:44,790 --> 00:03:47,790 And he starts to share them drop by drop. 36 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,210 Dispatch by dispatch. Crumb by crumb. 37 00:03:51,330 --> 00:03:53,710 Of course, we don't know who's behind it. 38 00:03:53,790 --> 00:03:58,460 We don't think he's an original member of the Luther Blissett Project, 39 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:00,040 because if it was a prank, 40 00:04:00,130 --> 00:04:03,420 the consequences of this prank weren't worth it. 41 00:04:03,540 --> 00:04:05,290 What have you been able to figure out 42 00:04:05,420 --> 00:04:08,420 about the personality of who's behind Q? 43 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:10,210 You've read a lot of the drops. 44 00:04:10,290 --> 00:04:12,420 Obviously, you had an interest at some point 45 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:15,170 in trying to figure out who it was. 46 00:04:15,250 --> 00:04:18,040 There's something nerd-ish. 47 00:04:18,130 --> 00:04:21,170 - Nerd-ish? - Yeah, nerd-ish, in it. 48 00:04:21,250 --> 00:04:24,080 Not exactly a nerd, but there's something nerd-ish. 49 00:04:24,210 --> 00:04:25,750 Probably a former nerd. 50 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:29,750 - How old do you think Q is? - Over 30. 51 00:04:29,790 --> 00:04:33,210 What kind of person would read this book and think, I want to be Q? 52 00:04:33,290 --> 00:04:35,790 I want to be the villain from this book. 53 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,500 A villain. 54 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:42,920 Have you ever heard of Luther Blissett? 55 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,420 I don't know who Luther Blissett is. 56 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,210 You ever heard of the novel called Q? 57 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,500 I don't know anything about it. 58 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:55,500 We have an army of digital soldiers. 59 00:04:55,580 --> 00:04:59,000 Has General Flynn ever been in contact with you? Or General Flynn Junior? 60 00:04:59,130 --> 00:05:00,420 Never. 61 00:05:00,580 --> 00:05:03,040 Do you think that Fred could be behind Q? 62 00:05:03,130 --> 00:05:06,080 I don't know if Frederick is behind Q or not. 63 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:11,880 If Frederick was Q, he would have latched on to the fame much earlier. 64 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,420 - I have a question. - Yeah? 65 00:05:13,540 --> 00:05:18,960 These names you're going through are your possible list of who Q might be? 66 00:05:20,330 --> 00:05:21,920 - Okay. - That's right. 67 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,540 Interesting. Am I on the list? 68 00:05:24,630 --> 00:05:26,920 You're on the list. Sure. 69 00:05:28,630 --> 00:05:31,000 Well, let's continue then. 70 00:06:26,830 --> 00:06:31,790 Q: INTO THE STORM 71 00:06:34,830 --> 00:06:36,250 PROVIDENCE, RHODE ISLAND 72 00:06:36,330 --> 00:06:42,330 The Q phenomenon was moving from, as QAnons would put it, dark to light. 73 00:06:42,420 --> 00:06:45,330 Our opponents have spent millions of dollars against us in the campaign. 74 00:06:45,420 --> 00:06:47,420 We've spent about 150 dollars. 75 00:06:47,540 --> 00:06:50,250 And in the run up to the 2018 mid-term election, 76 00:06:50,380 --> 00:06:53,830 the movement even had its very first QAnon candidates running for office. 77 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,130 Because as you dig deeply into all the documents 78 00:06:57,250 --> 00:06:59,670 that are being released in the Q drops, 79 00:06:59,790 --> 00:07:02,000 little by little, you find out 80 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:07,460 that every single organization in this country and worldwide, 81 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:12,580 was infiltrated by a global cabal. 82 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:16,540 I'm Anne Armstrong, and I'm going to be the next Governor of Rhode Island. 83 00:07:18,540 --> 00:07:21,130 Her main platform is the legalization of marijuana. 84 00:07:21,250 --> 00:07:22,920 She also told me, if elected, 85 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,130 she believes she can improve the efficiency of the DMV. 86 00:07:26,250 --> 00:07:27,580 What are you both running for? 87 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:31,170 Governor and Attorney General. 88 00:07:31,210 --> 00:07:33,630 We've done polls privately 89 00:07:33,750 --> 00:07:37,420 and I think I'm polling around 48 percent. 90 00:07:37,460 --> 00:07:41,000 One percent of voters said they supported Armstrong for Governor. 91 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,040 I think we're the only two candidates 92 00:07:43,130 --> 00:07:46,630 to openly express our interest in the QAnon phenomenon. 93 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:51,290 And I, in particular, profess to be a high level escapee 94 00:07:51,420 --> 00:07:55,420 from a CIA mind control hypnosis program, called MK Ultra. 95 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:58,330 - Can I show? - No. You may not. 96 00:07:58,420 --> 00:08:02,000 Like, in the Matrix when they have that... He has a thing from when... 97 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,460 We even wrote a song. Want to hear our Q song? 98 00:08:04,540 --> 00:08:06,540 - Of course I want to hear your Q song. - Okay, ready? 99 00:08:06,670 --> 00:08:08,420 One, two, three. 100 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:13,380 Hey, Q, what do you do? 101 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:19,630 Drain the swamp and lock up the bad guys. 102 00:08:19,710 --> 00:08:22,210 Democrats are vying for a potential blue wave 103 00:08:22,290 --> 00:08:24,040 in this year's mid-term elections. 104 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:27,040 We are not seeing any semblance of a blue wave, whatsoever. 105 00:08:27,130 --> 00:08:30,710 In fact what we're probably seeing is a red wave. 106 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:35,210 Q had been building up anticipation for the 2018 mid-term elections. 107 00:08:35,290 --> 00:08:38,210 Energizing its army of digital soldiers. 108 00:08:38,290 --> 00:08:41,960 Repeating ideas like panic in DC, patriots in control, 109 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,380 and predicting a red wave. Or even, a red tsunami. 110 00:08:46,460 --> 00:08:52,630 Silent majority no more. Be loud. You have a voice, are you registered? 111 00:08:52,710 --> 00:08:56,290 Vote them all out. Prepare. Red October. 112 00:08:56,420 --> 00:08:57,960 What does that mean? 113 00:08:58,420 --> 00:09:00,040 That's what we're trying to figure out, 114 00:09:00,130 --> 00:09:03,330 what the Red October either there's gonna be something going on 115 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:07,210 where a lot of people are gonna instead of voting democrat, 116 00:09:07,330 --> 00:09:09,080 are gonna change. 117 00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:12,710 The importance that Q was placing on the 2018 election 118 00:09:12,830 --> 00:09:16,500 was making Jamie more active in politics than ever before. 119 00:09:16,580 --> 00:09:19,790 People want to know, who is Q? Well, nobody knows. 120 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,000 So, there's nothing to attack. There's no Q building. There's no Q rally. 121 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,460 We go to Trump rally wearing Q stuff, 122 00:09:27,580 --> 00:09:29,960 and we're all part of the Q movement. 123 00:09:32,210 --> 00:09:35,460 Q's impact was permeating politics in other ways. 124 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:39,000 Rising MAGA star DeAnna Lorraine was using her platform 125 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,750 to attract Q followers. 126 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:44,040 Thank you so much for being here. You guys are so courageous. 127 00:09:44,130 --> 00:09:46,250 I know we've all lost friends and family 128 00:09:46,380 --> 00:09:48,630 because we've walked away and stood for the truth. 129 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:52,500 Meanwhile, Marjorie Taylor Greene was just getting her feet wet. 130 00:09:52,580 --> 00:09:55,380 Both would run for congress in the next election cycle. 131 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:58,750 Q is a patriot. We know that for sure. 132 00:09:58,830 --> 00:10:01,630 But we do not know who Q is. Okay? 133 00:10:01,750 --> 00:10:03,460 But I'm just going to tell you about it, 134 00:10:03,540 --> 00:10:07,000 because I think it's something worth listening to. 135 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,420 And paying attention to. 136 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:15,960 On October 2nd, 2018, Q simply writes, 53-47. 137 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,710 It was days before the Senate was scheduled to vote 138 00:10:18,790 --> 00:10:20,670 on the next Supreme Court Justice. 139 00:10:20,750 --> 00:10:26,250 Let me take a step back, and explain high school. 140 00:10:27,420 --> 00:10:30,290 And Q followers seemed to believe that this was a prediction 141 00:10:30,420 --> 00:10:32,580 for how the vote would split. 142 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:36,330 Mister Carper, no. 143 00:10:37,830 --> 00:10:41,460 But it went a little differently. Had Q made a mistake? 144 00:10:41,580 --> 00:10:45,420 Or was 53 to 47 intended to mean something else? 145 00:10:49,130 --> 00:10:51,580 I just believe Q is worldwide, 146 00:10:51,670 --> 00:10:55,790 and I feel like it's my duty to help share, 147 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,380 if people are genuinely want to know about it. And want to follow it. 148 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:03,130 When I see the news now, if I ever watch the news, 149 00:11:03,210 --> 00:11:05,330 it does nothing to me at all. 150 00:11:05,420 --> 00:11:08,750 The political, you know, I just go for Q. 151 00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:12,000 This is the real news. I see that stuff, that's a show. 152 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,540 Q says vote, vote, vote, vote, vote, like a million times. 153 00:11:15,630 --> 00:11:19,500 Says, will you answer the call? Your country needs you. 154 00:11:20,210 --> 00:11:22,420 ELECTION DAY NOVEMBER 6, 2018 155 00:11:24,290 --> 00:11:26,210 - Hello. - Hello. I like your shirt. 156 00:11:26,290 --> 00:11:29,130 - Thank you. Have you heard... - Have you heard of the Q? 157 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:30,710 - The what? - QAnon? 158 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:34,000 There's no new Q drops at all. Since earlier. 159 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:36,880 It's just the last one just protect the votes. 160 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,670 If there is a massive wave, and we take seats and gain everything, 161 00:11:40,750 --> 00:11:46,000 and just unbelievable, I think Q will be more and more telling. 162 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,920 CNN can now project 163 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,920 that Democrats will win the majority in the US House of Representatives. 164 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,210 Basically, we're saying... 165 00:11:54,290 --> 00:11:56,630 They're saying that chances are 166 00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:59,000 that the House is gonna swing Democrat. 167 00:12:00,210 --> 00:12:01,630 The House? Right here? 168 00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:04,540 New Congress will be divided, with Democrats leading the House, 169 00:12:04,630 --> 00:12:08,830 and Republicans in charge of the Senate. Expanding their majority. 170 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,130 After the election, the Senate split 53 to 47. 171 00:12:14,250 --> 00:12:17,960 Q reminded its followers of a drop from a month earlier, 172 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,920 declaring Senate was the target. 173 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,630 The implication being that Q somehow managed to predict 174 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:26,630 how the election would turn out. 175 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:31,380 Of course, this doesn't quite jive with Q's other prediction of a red tsunami. 176 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,420 Nonetheless, QAnons were satisfied. 177 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:36,500 I think this is to bring down the House. 178 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:39,670 I think this is gonna show that they were so corrupt. 179 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:41,710 Let them think they won. 180 00:12:41,790 --> 00:12:44,170 - Enjoy the show. - Yeah, enjoy the show. 181 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,420 Neither Anne Armstrong or Alan Gordon managed to win their race. 182 00:12:52,210 --> 00:12:55,210 But the movement was clearly gaining traction. 183 00:13:00,830 --> 00:13:04,580 In early January of 2019, I got an anonymous tip 184 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:09,170 that forced me to revisit my investigation into Jim and Ron Watkins. 185 00:13:09,250 --> 00:13:13,790 You see, one of their former employees was leaking out information online. 186 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,630 The ex-employee who goes by the handle IWillRedpillU, 187 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:20,580 had worked for Jim and Ron's website, The Goldwater. 188 00:13:20,670 --> 00:13:22,210 Welcome to The Goldwater. 189 00:13:22,330 --> 00:13:24,790 Where we provide an informative view 190 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,460 on today's alternative news headlines. 191 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,080 On the website, they kept a running tally 192 00:13:31,250 --> 00:13:33,080 of how many people the Clintons had murdered, 193 00:13:33,250 --> 00:13:37,250 some alien stuff, and had a few mentions of Q here and there. 194 00:13:39,830 --> 00:13:43,210 The Goldwater curated theories that were generated on 8chan, 195 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:47,080 and then repackaged them as news for the working man. 196 00:13:48,380 --> 00:13:51,040 But The Goldwater wasn't getting much traction online. 197 00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:53,460 And come Christmas of 2018, 198 00:13:53,580 --> 00:13:56,290 Jim decided to lay off most of its employees. 199 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,130 Now, one of those ex-employees had gone rogue, 200 00:14:01,170 --> 00:14:05,830 logging into The Goldwater's US Twitter account and airing their grievances. 201 00:14:07,330 --> 00:14:10,250 There was one message that really stuck out. 202 00:14:10,380 --> 00:14:12,790 The author claimed to have insider access. 203 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,500 Saying that the truth about the QAnon movement would crush people. 204 00:14:16,580 --> 00:14:19,330 And that they didn't want to be the one to do that. 205 00:14:19,420 --> 00:14:23,670 A bit of digging around this anon, produced the name Courtney Tubbs. 206 00:14:23,790 --> 00:14:27,580 Courtney posted an email address in The Goldwater's Twitter bio. 207 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:29,790 So, I reached out. 208 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,630 She responded to me saying, whatever Jim and Ron told you, 209 00:14:33,710 --> 00:14:37,040 they would have undoubtedly agreed to a narrative prior to your arrival. 210 00:14:37,130 --> 00:14:39,580 And their entire goal while you were in house, 211 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:42,460 was to make that perception seem legitimate. 212 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:52,880 In another email exchange, Courtney Tubbs appeared to claim 213 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,040 that Roger Stone had been funding The Goldwater. 214 00:14:56,170 --> 00:14:59,580 Now, Roger Stone was another likely suspect for Q. 215 00:14:59,750 --> 00:15:02,460 He had the skills, the motive, and the connections. 216 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:04,670 He also has a tattoo of Nixon on his back. 217 00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:09,750 Some pondered if an oft repeated phrase in the Q narrative, keystone. 218 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,250 And the keystone to doing that of course... 219 00:15:12,330 --> 00:15:17,330 Was a reference to the involvement of both WikiLeaks, and Roger Stone. 220 00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:20,710 Tell Roger that my people are sitting at the table. 221 00:15:21,250 --> 00:15:24,580 Okay, so like a table for like, seven or eight? 222 00:15:24,630 --> 00:15:29,290 You might remember Jack Posobiec. The guy who did the pizza gate live stream. 223 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,710 We're going to go in, and we're going to infiltrate Comet Pizza. 224 00:15:33,790 --> 00:15:36,790 Jack had built a relationship with Roger Stone. 225 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Presumably from their days working together on the Trump campaign. 226 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,000 What's your plan tonight? 227 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,040 I'm having a private dinner with Roger. 228 00:15:44,170 --> 00:15:47,250 And in the months leading up to the 2016 election, 229 00:15:47,330 --> 00:15:51,420 8chan was sending a lot of traffic to the Trump campaign website. 230 00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:54,630 In fact, the ninth most traffic of any site in the world. 231 00:15:54,710 --> 00:15:56,420 Thousands of referrals a day. 232 00:15:56,540 --> 00:16:00,040 So, it seems plausible that someone from the Trump campaign, 233 00:16:00,130 --> 00:16:02,380 which had a masterful digital strategy, 234 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:04,040 would have made contact. 235 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:08,000 But I think you're going to see a more aggressive digital campaign. 236 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,630 Did you ever have any interaction with The Goldwater? 237 00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:13,330 - The website? - Yeah. 238 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:17,330 Not in a very long time. They used to send me their articles, 239 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:18,830 asking for retweets. That kind of stuff. 240 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,960 You never saw any connection between The Goldwater and Q? 241 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,290 Not that I'm aware of. 242 00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:27,960 I haven't looked at that website in a very long time. 243 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,880 - It's just the same owner. - Oh, really? 244 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,500 Yeah. Owner of 8chan owns The Goldwater. 245 00:16:33,580 --> 00:16:36,130 Fascinating. Excuse me one second. 246 00:16:36,210 --> 00:16:39,830 I've got to... I think this is Roger's guy. 247 00:16:40,210 --> 00:16:42,250 My guess is that they are here. 248 00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:46,250 I don't know if Roger wants to be on the record, though. 249 00:16:46,330 --> 00:16:50,250 - Stone. We meet again. - Sorry about yesterday. 250 00:16:50,330 --> 00:16:53,960 How are you, sir? Good to meet you. 251 00:16:54,330 --> 00:16:58,210 Roger Stone was not inclined to go on the record about Q. 252 00:16:58,420 --> 00:16:59,630 Now, just six days earlier, 253 00:16:59,830 --> 00:17:02,960 he'd been arrested for making false statements to the FBI. 254 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,920 As part of Robert Mueller's investigation. 255 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,790 Mueller's probe was investigating whether Trump, WikiLeaks, and Russia 256 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,210 had colluded to release hacked emails. 257 00:17:12,380 --> 00:17:15,500 Ultimately damaging Hillary Clinton's presidential bid. 258 00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:18,790 Mueller found that Roger Stone had been back channeling 259 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,290 with WikiLeaks with the help of none other than Jerome Corsi. 260 00:17:24,380 --> 00:17:28,330 Who outed himself as being person number one in the indictment. 261 00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:31,460 They wanted me to be the key link between it was gonna be me, 262 00:17:31,540 --> 00:17:34,580 Roger Stone, to me, to Julian Assange. 263 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:37,380 And then they'd have all their collusion together. 264 00:17:37,460 --> 00:17:41,290 It'd be Roger Stone, to Steve Bannon, to Donald Trump. 265 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:43,130 Remember Jerome Corsi? 266 00:17:43,210 --> 00:17:45,920 He's that early QAnon promoter and political operative 267 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,630 who worked for Alex Jones? 268 00:17:47,710 --> 00:17:50,210 Now that pretty much authenticates 269 00:17:50,380 --> 00:17:54,170 that again, QAnon is very close to Donald Trump. 270 00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:55,960 When I reached out to Corsi, 271 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,380 he was eager to give an interview, just not about Q. 272 00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:03,540 A couple weeks later, 273 00:18:03,630 --> 00:18:06,380 another guy who had been arrested from Trump's inner circle, 274 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:11,290 George Papadopoulos, was throwing a small party for his wife in Las Vegas. 275 00:18:11,380 --> 00:18:13,540 Though, it seemed that the terms of his arrest 276 00:18:13,630 --> 00:18:15,830 actually prevented him from showing up. 277 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,290 But the party went on. 278 00:18:17,420 --> 00:18:21,000 With openly MAGA and openly gay pop star, Ricky Rebel, 279 00:18:21,170 --> 00:18:22,920 leading the karaoke sesh. 280 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,670 Which seemed to be unconfortable for evangelist and Qtuber, Craig James. 281 00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:32,960 ...sleep in heavenly peace... 282 00:18:33,130 --> 00:18:35,420 There were a few congressional candidates in the house. 283 00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:38,790 Omar Navarro, and his then girlfriend, DeAnna Lorraine, 284 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,420 who was planning to run for Nancy Pelosi's seat in the 2020 election. 285 00:18:42,540 --> 00:18:45,290 However you feel about the Q movement, what it did do, 286 00:18:45,380 --> 00:18:48,750 is it brought millions of patriots together around the world. 287 00:18:48,830 --> 00:18:52,210 As it turned out, they were also being groomed by Roger Stone. 288 00:18:52,290 --> 00:18:55,540 Omar is a kind of hard charging young performer 289 00:18:55,630 --> 00:18:57,290 that I think we need in the congress. 290 00:18:57,330 --> 00:19:00,420 Let's say I'm in contact with Roger Stone, who I know him and his wife, 291 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,420 I know a lot of things about them 292 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:06,040 that could implicate myself in something 293 00:19:06,130 --> 00:19:09,080 that I shouldn't be implicated in for no reason. 294 00:19:09,170 --> 00:19:11,580 Like, let's say I'm in contact with General Flynn, 295 00:19:11,670 --> 00:19:13,420 and he's a personal friend of mine. 296 00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:18,250 Now, it was funny that Omar mentioned General Michael Flynn. 297 00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:20,420 He was another likely suspect for Q. 298 00:19:20,580 --> 00:19:23,170 Who could be working with Roger Stone. 299 00:19:23,290 --> 00:19:27,290 Flynn had also pled guilty to making false statements to the FBI 300 00:19:27,380 --> 00:19:29,960 related to Russian interference. 301 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,420 Q was a huge advocate of General Flynn, 302 00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:34,750 as well as the Army for which he served. 303 00:19:34,830 --> 00:19:37,880 An untold number of QAnons now consider themselves 304 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,170 to be part of his digital army. 305 00:19:40,750 --> 00:19:42,790 And would include three stars in their bio 306 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,170 in order to show support for the three-star general. 307 00:19:47,130 --> 00:19:50,330 We were all talking to General Flynn and some other people. 308 00:19:50,420 --> 00:19:53,580 And we were making hints about QAnon. 309 00:19:54,250 --> 00:19:57,500 And Mike Flynn was like, "Where we go one, we go all." 310 00:19:57,670 --> 00:19:58,750 What are you alluding to? 311 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,420 I think there's about 10 people that are part of it. Seven to 10. 312 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:02,710 And he's part of it. 313 00:20:02,830 --> 00:20:05,040 I couldn't say that. Because then I couldn't tell you that. 314 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,830 - I know you can't say it. - So, you have to stay out of that. 315 00:20:08,380 --> 00:20:12,420 About make America great again. It's not just a mob, it's a mindset. 316 00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:14,880 Let's put it this way, it's gonna be big. 317 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,170 And you've probably have heard the same things from people in your camp. 318 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,830 You think there's 10 people, right? 319 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,250 I know there's probably seven. I know two of 'em. 320 00:20:25,330 --> 00:20:27,880 And they're people that have so much information about the government. 321 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,790 Let's put it this way, when I was at the American Priorities Conference, 322 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,210 there were a few people who were with Roger 323 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:35,830 who gave me a wink and a nod and... 324 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:38,380 - Roger is, yeah. - I know. 325 00:20:38,460 --> 00:20:40,540 - He's one of 'em. - And so's Mike Flynn. 326 00:20:42,380 --> 00:20:45,210 I did ask Doctor Corsi for a round up memo. 327 00:20:45,330 --> 00:20:47,790 I do think there's a possibility 328 00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:50,630 that Roger Stone is deeply connected with Q. 329 00:20:51,670 --> 00:20:54,960 And it has crossed my mind that he's one of the Q. 330 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,670 Reporter's interest in that memo, proving yet again... 331 00:20:57,830 --> 00:21:00,380 - You asked him about Q. - I did. 332 00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:02,880 Mister Stone, do you have any comment on QAnon? 333 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,250 I do not. 334 00:21:05,170 --> 00:21:08,420 - Do you buy it? - Absolutely not for a second. 335 00:21:10,540 --> 00:21:13,130 There were just a few too many coincidences here. 336 00:21:13,250 --> 00:21:16,000 And with them, more questions. 337 00:21:16,170 --> 00:21:18,540 So, I reached out to Jim, Ron, and Fred. 338 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:20,920 It had been several months since I'd seen them. 339 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,880 But now, I had a good reason to follow up with them. 340 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,540 I wanted to see if I could find out 341 00:21:25,670 --> 00:21:28,000 more about Courtney Tubbs' allegations 342 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,460 that Roger Stone had connections to The Goldwater. 343 00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:39,880 If Stone was involved, maybe Q really was someone close to Trump. 344 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,710 Let's have the 1930s German pen, and the Italian pen. 345 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:59,210 So, Jim, what has changed since the last time I saw you? 346 00:21:59,290 --> 00:22:03,040 I've found out I had 90 percent hearing loss. 347 00:22:03,170 --> 00:22:05,170 Which is why I was angry at everybody. 348 00:22:05,250 --> 00:22:07,330 I thought they were mumbling. You know? Saying, "Speak up!" 349 00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:09,080 Last time I saw you, 350 00:22:09,170 --> 00:22:12,080 we did the interview, I just thought you were being highly evasive. 351 00:22:12,210 --> 00:22:13,670 I was not being evasive. 352 00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:17,250 I either wasn't hearing it. Or not understanding. 353 00:22:17,330 --> 00:22:19,540 We talked a little bit about Q last time. 354 00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:22,250 You didn't seem to know very much. Do you... 355 00:22:22,330 --> 00:22:26,540 I don't actually read the Q board. I'm not a real political guy. 356 00:22:26,670 --> 00:22:30,250 But I know more about Q now. 357 00:22:31,380 --> 00:22:32,630 Since we've talked. 358 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:34,580 You say you're not a very political guy, 359 00:22:34,670 --> 00:22:36,750 but you were involved in The Goldwater. 360 00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:38,380 Which was a political website, right? 361 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:41,290 It was a news website. Objective news. 362 00:22:44,790 --> 00:22:48,250 Redpill took over your Twitter thing for a while there. 363 00:22:48,330 --> 00:22:50,170 That person made a lot of claims. 364 00:22:50,290 --> 00:22:51,580 One of those claims was 365 00:22:51,710 --> 00:22:54,000 that Roger Stone was actually funding The Goldwater. 366 00:22:54,130 --> 00:22:57,960 Who's that? I don't know who Roger Stone is. I'm sorry. 367 00:22:59,210 --> 00:23:03,580 The first time I asked Jim if he knew Roger Stone, here's what he said. 368 00:23:03,710 --> 00:23:06,710 I don't know who Roger Stone is. 369 00:23:06,790 --> 00:23:08,130 You don't know who Roger Stone is? 370 00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:09,290 I'm sorry. 371 00:23:09,380 --> 00:23:12,080 Roger Stone, he has like a tattoo of Nixon on his back. 372 00:23:12,170 --> 00:23:13,540 - Really? - Yeah. 373 00:23:13,710 --> 00:23:15,500 He was the youngest in the Nixon Administration... 374 00:23:15,580 --> 00:23:18,920 Is he like, gay for Nixon, type thing? It's like, "Hi!" 375 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,250 Every time you do me, you see Nixon. 376 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,830 I've heard of Oliver Stone. Is that a relative? 377 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,830 While Jim's hearing aids seemed to be working, perhaps his memory wasn't. 378 00:23:33,540 --> 00:23:39,210 My next stop was to see Ron. This time on his home turf in Japan. 379 00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:44,130 SAPPORO, JAPAN 380 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,670 Real quick, just do a mic check for me. 381 00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:51,960 Count in Chinese to 10. 382 00:23:59,830 --> 00:24:02,790 So why did you start The Goldwater? 383 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,080 At the time, we were thinking heavily 384 00:24:05,170 --> 00:24:07,710 that all these mainstream media websites 385 00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:11,920 were not publishing the full truth. 386 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,750 Or they were leaving out tidbits. 387 00:24:14,830 --> 00:24:16,670 And why did you hire Redpill? 388 00:24:16,750 --> 00:24:20,500 Redpill was hired by, I believe, my father. 389 00:24:20,540 --> 00:24:24,710 From what I understand, the person that was being paid, 390 00:24:24,790 --> 00:24:26,960 their name was not Courtney Tubbs. 391 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,920 I'd recommend you try to reach out to Redpill 392 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,540 and figure out that mystery. I'm curious myself. 393 00:24:32,670 --> 00:24:35,380 When that was happening, I reached out 394 00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:37,710 'cause I had no idea what was going on. 395 00:24:37,790 --> 00:24:42,000 Suddenly, you had somebody making a lot of very strong claims, 396 00:24:42,130 --> 00:24:43,630 who had taken over the account. 397 00:24:43,710 --> 00:24:46,250 One of the comments I guess, that had been made. 398 00:24:46,380 --> 00:24:48,710 And the reason that I'm asking about it, 399 00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:52,880 is the truth about the QAnon movement would crush people. 400 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,750 And I don't want to be the one to do that. 401 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,040 He or she certainly did not get information from me about that. 402 00:25:00,130 --> 00:25:01,330 I don't know. 403 00:25:02,580 --> 00:25:05,000 It was not my job to vet that person. 404 00:25:05,130 --> 00:25:07,830 But you are registered as the president of it. 405 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,000 I don't remember if I'm registered as the president or not. 406 00:25:11,130 --> 00:25:12,540 You don't remember if you're the president? 407 00:25:12,670 --> 00:25:15,630 I don't remember what title I have. 408 00:25:15,790 --> 00:25:23,000 So, the person who is behind the Redpill account said 409 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,250 that Roger Stone was the one subsidizing The Goldwater. 410 00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:31,290 And that when Roger Stone stopped paying for The Goldwater, 411 00:25:31,460 --> 00:25:33,210 that's when everyone got fired. 412 00:25:34,540 --> 00:25:36,790 That's false. 413 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,380 So, you've never had any contact with Roger Stone? 414 00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:42,040 I've never had any contact with Roger Stone. 415 00:25:42,130 --> 00:25:44,170 And Roger Stone was not funding The Goldwater. 416 00:25:44,250 --> 00:25:46,670 Roger Stone was not funding The Goldwater. 417 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:49,170 To the best of my knowledge that is. 418 00:25:49,250 --> 00:25:52,170 So who is paying for The Goldwater? 419 00:25:56,170 --> 00:25:59,040 I believe it was my father. 420 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:05,380 A guy named Tom Reidel was listed as the treasurer of The Goldwater. 421 00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:09,880 So, if anyone knew about payments from Roger Stone, it should be him. 422 00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:13,170 MANILA, PHILIPPINES 423 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,580 Okay. 424 00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:29,000 To your knowledge, has Roger Stone ever been involved 425 00:26:29,130 --> 00:26:30,670 in anything you guys have done? 426 00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:34,210 I've never met Roger Stone. And to my knowledge, 427 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,960 Roger Stone has had no contact with anyone in our group. 428 00:26:42,790 --> 00:26:46,210 But I thought he was funny on the Alex Jones Show sometimes. 429 00:26:46,330 --> 00:26:48,330 He's quite a character. 430 00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:51,880 'Cause Redpill said that specifically emailed saying 431 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,210 that Roger Stone had been funding The Goldwater. 432 00:26:55,290 --> 00:26:57,170 That is where that question comes from. 433 00:26:57,250 --> 00:26:59,540 Well, Redpill... 434 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,920 I couldn't guess what the motivation would be for Redpill to claim 435 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,000 that The Goldwater was associated with Roger Stone or any outside force. 436 00:27:17,580 --> 00:27:21,170 Courtney Tubbs, or whoever IWillRedpillU was, 437 00:27:21,330 --> 00:27:23,750 stopped responding to my emails. 438 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,920 It begged the question, 439 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,920 were they just a disgruntled ex employee, 440 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,540 or did someone convince them to keep quiet? 441 00:27:32,670 --> 00:27:35,000 The threats terrified me, and my kids. 442 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,710 While I was in Manila, I'd also arranged to meet up with Fred. 443 00:27:40,750 --> 00:27:43,500 In the months that had passed, it seemed lots had changed. 444 00:27:43,670 --> 00:27:46,380 You see, he was no longer working for Jim. 445 00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:49,630 - I don't know if I met her before. - This is my wife, Grace. 446 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:51,250 - Hi. - And that's May. 447 00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:53,540 - It's nice to meet you. - Grace, it's good to meet you. 448 00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:56,040 What do you know about Red Pill? 449 00:27:57,210 --> 00:27:59,330 Are we talking about Courtney Tubbs? 450 00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:02,630 Courtney Tubbs actually had a big falling out with them. 451 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:05,330 That's what I'm most curious about. 452 00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:07,710 This person who'd taken over the Goldwater account, 453 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:09,790 and seemingly had information about Q. 454 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,250 And was involved in the inception of Q in some way. 455 00:28:12,330 --> 00:28:17,170 For sure, Redpill had information about the Goldwater and Jim's companies. 456 00:28:17,290 --> 00:28:19,290 Does he know who Roger Stone is? 457 00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:23,170 I would be shocked if he didn't know who Roger Stone was. 458 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:24,960 'Cause he's very political. 459 00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:29,500 I'm not a political person, myself. I'm like a non-political guy. 460 00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:32,500 I haven't been keeping up on politics for a while. 461 00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:36,670 Politics? Boring. I'm not into the politics stuff. 462 00:28:36,790 --> 00:28:38,750 The other thing that Redpill had said, 463 00:28:38,830 --> 00:28:41,580 was that Roger Stone was funding the Goldwater. 464 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:47,080 I mean, look, if you can prove it. It's interesting information. But I don't... 465 00:28:47,170 --> 00:28:48,500 I have no ability to prove that. 466 00:28:48,580 --> 00:28:50,630 And neither do I. Soý 467 00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:54,920 Did you hear the story about why I quit? I mean? 468 00:28:55,790 --> 00:28:57,170 No. 469 00:29:01,330 --> 00:29:06,710 So, October 2018, I was having some trouble just at work. 470 00:29:06,790 --> 00:29:10,580 But I just wanted to take a week and maybe go somewhere, clear my head. 471 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:13,710 Come back. So, the way Jim's system works is, 472 00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:18,420 he pays you not only in money, but also in-kind benefits. 473 00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:21,580 From the looks of it, you guys had some good times in the beginning. 474 00:29:21,670 --> 00:29:23,540 You seemed like good friends. 475 00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:26,040 Well, I was nice to him. 476 00:29:27,630 --> 00:29:31,540 And he lived in the apartment building just right above me. 477 00:29:31,630 --> 00:29:34,040 And in an apartment that I rented for him. 478 00:29:34,130 --> 00:29:35,750 The lease was in my name. 479 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:37,250 Everything is in his name. 480 00:29:37,330 --> 00:29:39,000 But he's paying for it, so that kind of makes sense. 481 00:29:39,130 --> 00:29:41,790 Okay, but it's an in-kind benefit for employees. 482 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,540 And he has you live there. And it's implied that it's your space. 483 00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:49,960 And that he's not gonna just enter it whenever he wants to. 484 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,080 You realize at that time he was my office manager, and he wasn't at work. 485 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:59,130 I wasn't dressed at all. I was totally nude. All I had was like, a blanket. 486 00:29:59,210 --> 00:30:01,420 And I knocked on the door, and they let me in, 487 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:02,960 and I told him I was coming over. 488 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,290 Totally naked, and then Jim Watkins comes, boom, boom, boom, boom. 489 00:30:07,420 --> 00:30:09,330 You can't just say you're takin' time off. 490 00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:11,380 And I talked to him, and I talked to him 491 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:15,040 like an owner to an office manager would talk. 492 00:30:15,170 --> 00:30:18,080 He looked like he was gonna punch the wall. You can't do that. 493 00:30:18,170 --> 00:30:23,580 If he can't handle what he'd been dishing out, then that's his problem. 494 00:30:23,710 --> 00:30:26,630 That's when he came out with this, this is my unit shit. 495 00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:31,170 Right then and there, I decided I can't live here anymore. That's it. 496 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:41,880 A lot of these powerful men, you have like a cult that forms around them. 497 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,830 And Jim Watkins is no different. 498 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,710 He has people that would put their lives on the line for him. 499 00:30:46,830 --> 00:30:51,500 I believe that. They are an extremely insular organization. 500 00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:54,580 It is kind of a code of secrecy. 501 00:30:54,670 --> 00:30:58,920 You are constantly swearing to the made men, 502 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,670 that would be Ron, Jim and Tom, 503 00:31:01,790 --> 00:31:03,670 that you will keep their secrets. 504 00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:05,460 You swear it all the time to them. 505 00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:07,920 Honestly, it's kind of a lot like the mafia in that way, 506 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,880 and it takes years to work your way up to where I was, 507 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,500 and I did not even know everything, right? 508 00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:18,250 Like, Tom Riedel has worked with them for 20 years, 509 00:31:18,380 --> 00:31:20,750 and he might not even know everything. 510 00:31:26,830 --> 00:31:29,920 I know Jim from way back. 511 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,170 We started working together when I was a college student, 512 00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:36,670 and we started designing websites together. 513 00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:39,710 He was looking for a designer. I was an art student. 514 00:31:39,790 --> 00:31:45,380 Yeah, over the years it grew into a large web hosting company. 515 00:31:47,630 --> 00:31:49,330 This thing is great. 516 00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:54,080 So, I want to get rid of that screen or oops! There you... I got porn. 517 00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:56,040 Whenever I need it. 518 00:31:56,170 --> 00:31:58,040 Just, that's why that toggle is great. 519 00:31:58,130 --> 00:32:00,830 Just always a vagina one button away. 520 00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:05,170 I spent basically all of my adult life with Jim. 521 00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:08,880 He gave me every opportunity to excel 522 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,040 and really just kind of guided me through life. 523 00:32:13,670 --> 00:32:15,540 - Excuse me. - Like that. 524 00:32:15,630 --> 00:32:18,080 Wait, how did you guys meet? 525 00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:19,710 We were in Pittsburgh. 526 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:22,040 I had two roommates. 527 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,670 They came home one day, and I was nerding on my computer. 528 00:32:29,210 --> 00:32:30,670 They they would come running in 529 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:34,790 and they're like, we met the King of Porn. 530 00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:40,130 I think I read somewhere that you were the King of Porn once upon a time. 531 00:32:40,210 --> 00:32:45,080 I've been called that but I'm, but that's really overstating me. 532 00:32:45,210 --> 00:32:49,040 And when you say the King of Porn, was he doing porn websites back then? 533 00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:50,630 Yes. 534 00:32:52,750 --> 00:32:56,580 More, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more! 535 00:32:57,210 --> 00:32:59,210 The Asian Bikini Bar. 536 00:32:59,330 --> 00:33:02,330 That was, like, his website that first made money 537 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:07,540 where he got around Japanese law by hosting a porn site in America, 538 00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:10,000 which was totally uncensored. That's what I know. 539 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,080 And PokeAMaN. You don't know PokeAMan? 540 00:33:13,170 --> 00:33:14,880 Oh, yes, I do know. 541 00:33:19,170 --> 00:33:21,830 What is PokeAMan.com? 542 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,330 That is a website that is owned by Nintendo. 543 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,080 They purchased that website from me. 544 00:33:29,290 --> 00:33:32,080 It was a homosexual website, 545 00:33:32,130 --> 00:33:36,130 and Nintendo purchased the domain name from me 546 00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:38,080 because they didn't like it. 547 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,830 Now, if you're thinking these guys seem to be into porn, 548 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,750 like more than the normal amount, you would be right. 549 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,420 But Ron takes it to another level. 550 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,290 Just got a new toy. 551 00:33:56,420 --> 00:33:59,210 Secondhand, but it's pretty nice. 552 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:06,880 Ron had suggested that while we were in Japan, we visit Soapland. 553 00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:12,420 Later when you go back to your hotel, you should search Soapland 554 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:16,040 and see if that's something you're interested in experiencing. 555 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,920 Looking it up online, it was a one-of-a-kind Japanese experience 556 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,000 where girls lather you up, then rub you down with their full body. 557 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,080 I got the impression this was a gatekeeping exercise. 558 00:34:29,210 --> 00:34:31,000 Maybe he wanted some collateral. 559 00:34:31,130 --> 00:34:34,000 Also, I was curious, both about Soapland 560 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,790 and where things might go 561 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,290 once we'd established some semblance of trust. 562 00:34:38,420 --> 00:34:40,290 It's like Disneyland but with soap. 563 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,630 Soap. Better than Disneyland. 564 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:50,130 One thing I've tried to figure out is, 565 00:34:50,250 --> 00:34:52,380 there must be something more in it for Ron 566 00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:56,460 than just documenting him around, running around Japan, 567 00:34:56,580 --> 00:34:58,290 philandering about or whatever... 568 00:34:58,380 --> 00:35:02,670 I can imagine what you got there. Did they bring you to a Soapland? 569 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:04,790 Yeah, you have to go. 570 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,710 Fred's expression said it all. 571 00:35:08,330 --> 00:35:11,040 And listen, we have to get into the story of the blue Q. 572 00:35:11,170 --> 00:35:13,790 I'm not looking forward to it, but we have to. 573 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,750 You caught me at a time I did not want to take unnecessary risk with Jim. 574 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,170 I felt like, you know what, this guy that's making this documentary, 575 00:35:25,250 --> 00:35:27,790 he's making it about something stupid, QAnon. 576 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,000 I'll talk to him. I don't care. I was careful about what I said, 577 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,210 and I protected Jim by talking about the Q. 578 00:35:37,290 --> 00:35:39,040 Fred explained that the blue Q 579 00:35:39,130 --> 00:35:41,710 he had claimed was mysteriously left at his apartment 580 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,880 it was actually a ruse that he had planned with Ron. 581 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,670 I don't want to necessarily say that I went along with it. 582 00:35:47,790 --> 00:35:49,580 Because in the post we always wrote, 583 00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:53,250 could be something, could be nothing, if you look at the post. 584 00:35:53,330 --> 00:35:56,500 And, when Q didn't repudiate it and even agreed with it, 585 00:35:56,580 --> 00:35:58,960 why would Q have done that? 586 00:36:00,330 --> 00:36:03,500 Fred's post had become a QProof, 587 00:36:03,580 --> 00:36:07,500 so by maintaining this lie about the origins of the blue Q, 588 00:36:07,540 --> 00:36:10,290 it did seem to protect the perceived authenticity 589 00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:13,210 of 8chan's most valuable asset. 590 00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:18,420 Q had brought immense growth to 8chan, 591 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:19,670 and according to Ron, 592 00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:23,960 had helped propel 8chan near the top 1000 websites in the world. 593 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:28,710 So, when Q switched from 4chan to 8chan, 594 00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:33,750 was Q simply out of options, or was that always part of the plan? 595 00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:44,500 Ron communicated with me and told me, we want to attract QAnon to 8chan. 596 00:36:44,580 --> 00:36:49,830 And he strongly implied that he was in communication with QAnon. 597 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,460 That's another reason I think 598 00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:55,630 that the people that are 8chan are heavily involved with Q. 599 00:36:57,330 --> 00:36:58,500 A lot of people think 600 00:36:58,580 --> 00:37:03,580 that because you have so much control of what happens on 8chan 601 00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:09,040 that it would be inconceivable that Q would not have contacted you 602 00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:11,080 and given you more information 603 00:37:11,170 --> 00:37:13,250 and be working with you in some way shape or form. 604 00:37:13,380 --> 00:37:15,290 The only way Q has contacted me 605 00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:21,170 is via the publicly accessible Q Research board. 606 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,080 So, Q has communicated a lot with Codemonkey. 607 00:37:26,170 --> 00:37:29,670 I think there's eight or nine posts directed to CM. 608 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:31,920 So, he was another potential suspect. 609 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,250 Some people thought maybe he was working with Jim 610 00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:36,420 or maybe everybody was working together. 611 00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:38,380 Do you think it's possible 612 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:44,750 that Ron could in some way shape or form be involved with Q or behind it? 613 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,460 I couldn't say whether or not Ron could have spawned Q. 614 00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:54,460 And, for us as a group, I could totally debunk that, 615 00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:58,750 because if we were to create Q, 616 00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:00,710 we would have made another website. 617 00:38:00,790 --> 00:38:05,920 Why put it on a website that is such a stinker? 618 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,580 It started on 4chan. 619 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,420 And then it pulled users over to 8chan. 620 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:15,040 Okay. If, okay, Q, I... 621 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:18,380 I couldn't tell if Tom was skirting around my question. 622 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:24,830 I hadn't asked if Ron had created Q. He almost certainly hadn't. 623 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,960 But, as Admin, he could easily have taken control of Q. 624 00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:38,380 Now, Q's operational security was lacking from the beginning, 625 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,920 which Codemonkey would have recognized right off the bat. 626 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,880 Tripcodes can be hacked fairly easily if you know what you're doing. 627 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,420 And in December of 2017, Q's first password was either hacked or leaked. 628 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:54,960 We're not sure. 629 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,290 And it's revealed to be none other than Matlock. 630 00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:12,380 Fucking Matlock. 631 00:39:12,540 --> 00:39:15,040 No numbers, no symbols. 632 00:39:15,130 --> 00:39:17,380 Just the titular name of a character 633 00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:21,750 not bound by the rules of evidence or courtroom procedure. 634 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,500 One of the funny things about the whole tripcode things 635 00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:27,880 is that if you actually believe QAnon is this Deep State person, 636 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,080 this operator, Q's technical expertise is basically zero. 637 00:39:31,210 --> 00:39:34,380 Like, his operational security is non existent. 638 00:39:37,710 --> 00:39:41,080 In early January, QAnon is starting to pick up steam 639 00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:45,040 and there's a dispute over who controls the Q screenname. 640 00:39:45,170 --> 00:39:46,920 And, Paul Furber, who's running the board, 641 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,920 comes out and says, this is a fake Q. 642 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,790 This is not the Q we know. 643 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:56,460 Q has been taken over by some other unknown actor that's not the real Q. 644 00:39:56,580 --> 00:40:00,330 Ultimately, I blame Codemonkey, because without his help, 645 00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:03,750 fake Q would have gone absolutely nowhere. 646 00:40:03,830 --> 00:40:06,710 'Cause every time he posted, I would have said, you're a LARP. 647 00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:08,830 And I would have banned him, and I would have deleted the post. 648 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,420 But then Codemonkey said, no, this is the real Q, 649 00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:15,380 which was absolute bullshit. I knew it wasn't true. 650 00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:18,040 The person who had the final say on determining 651 00:40:18,170 --> 00:40:22,790 whether or not Q had been hijacked was none other than Codemonkey. 652 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:28,880 However, there was one other thing that did seem to change. 653 00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:32,380 Q's writing style. 654 00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:38,040 Q went from writing complex, evolving Socratic questions 655 00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:43,000 to posting shoutouts, sharing obviously doctored photos, 656 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,710 and using an increasingly absurd amount of exclamation marks. 657 00:40:48,830 --> 00:40:53,630 In fact, an AI analysis by Swiss company Orc Analytics even showed 658 00:40:53,710 --> 00:40:55,380 that there was an obvious style shift 659 00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:59,460 between December of 2017 and January 2018. 660 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:01,500 The style changed completely. 661 00:41:01,540 --> 00:41:06,080 I thought, nah, something wrong here. Just my radar went off. 662 00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:10,500 How was Codemonkey so sure it was the same Q? 663 00:41:10,580 --> 00:41:12,580 It's a waste of time trying to fight him. 664 00:41:12,670 --> 00:41:16,630 It's like, it's trying to fight someone who owns their own platform. 665 00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:20,630 You're not going to defeat them. So, I just didn't even bother. 666 00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:22,880 I could tell in my conversations with Ron. 667 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,000 Ronald was trying-trying-trying to keep Q. 668 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:32,210 Q to him was like a-like a prize pig with a big blue award thingy. 669 00:41:32,290 --> 00:41:34,330 He wanted that pig so bad. 670 00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:39,500 In August of 2018, 671 00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:43,000 seven months after Q had been allegedly compromised 672 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,420 and moved off of Paul Furber's board, 673 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:47,580 Q's current tripcode gets hacked. 674 00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:50,830 But this time, it seems the hacker has a motive 675 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,500 and possibly insider knowledge. 676 00:41:53,580 --> 00:41:57,710 Using Q's account, they post a link to a lengthy diatribe 677 00:41:57,790 --> 00:42:00,830 that provided a psychological profile for the person 678 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,540 they believe to be behind Q. 679 00:42:03,630 --> 00:42:07,580 It is my belief that Q is a young, untrained American man 680 00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:11,750 who is playing games with your faith, your hope, and your love of country, 681 00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:15,330 mostly because he finds it amusing. 682 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:19,960 In order to regain control, QAnon logs into its own board on 8chan, 683 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,580 where it's the board owner, this time posting with a secure tripcode, 684 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:29,250 a type of trip code verification that Codemonkey had re-engineered. 685 00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:34,130 This secure tripcode that Q had just implemented, 686 00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:39,750 it only works on 8chan, which meant Q was now tied to the site. 687 00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:50,960 This Q poster linked himself so hard to 8chan, and no outside comms. 688 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,170 This platform only. And that became, like, a canonical statement. 689 00:42:55,210 --> 00:42:59,330 Ronald Watkins knows that most of the traffic comes from the Q people, 690 00:42:59,420 --> 00:43:02,380 and that most of the growth, if there is gonna be any growth, 691 00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:04,330 is gonna come from Q. 692 00:43:04,420 --> 00:43:05,710 So what are you getting at? 693 00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:08,670 I'm getting at that most likely they know who Q is. 694 00:43:08,750 --> 00:43:13,500 They engineered Q to specifically need them. 695 00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:34,710 This is a mochi hammer, 696 00:43:34,830 --> 00:43:38,210 so officially we're gonna be making mochi at the peak. 697 00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:41,040 It's also a good hammer for smashing things. 698 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,750 It says be really careful of bears. 699 00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:47,420 Scientifically, huge and aggressive. 700 00:43:47,540 --> 00:43:51,630 So, I'll have to hit on the way down and the whip and then down again. 701 00:43:52,670 --> 00:43:55,000 I'll try to hit it three times before it kills me. 702 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,670 What do you want me to do? 703 00:43:56,750 --> 00:44:00,080 Just film it while I'm smashing this bear in the face. 704 00:44:00,170 --> 00:44:02,750 And while it's eating me, you can run away. 705 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,580 I guess what I'm saying is that it feels 706 00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:17,580 like the mission of Q and some of the ideology of Q, 707 00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:20,210 and the mission of 8chan and some of the ideology of 8chan, 708 00:44:20,330 --> 00:44:23,040 even if the definitions are a little bit different, 709 00:44:23,210 --> 00:44:25,210 the goals are kind of the same. 710 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,830 I can't speak for the ideology of Q. I've never met the guy. 711 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,630 No idea what Q is or who it is. 712 00:44:36,750 --> 00:44:39,080 And don't really care to know. 713 00:44:39,170 --> 00:44:41,630 I'm sure someday it'll come out, but... 714 00:44:52,580 --> 00:44:55,420 I have a lot of theories of what or who Q might be, 715 00:44:55,540 --> 00:45:00,080 but sometimes the mystery is more important. 716 00:45:07,790 --> 00:45:13,920 Why do you think that the tone of Q has seemed to shift? 717 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,040 Their team might be going on the offensive now. 718 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,920 When you're on the offense, you keep as quiet as possible. 719 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,540 When you're strong, you look weak. 720 00:45:25,630 --> 00:45:29,040 When you're weak, you look strong. 721 00:45:29,130 --> 00:45:33,500 And that's the very basics of military strategy. 722 00:45:36,250 --> 00:45:39,290 Q says all the time what makes a good movie. 723 00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:44,130 Yes. Good actors. We're all just actors at the end of the day. 724 00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:48,670 The day after I left Japan, Q made a post claiming 725 00:45:48,750 --> 00:45:51,670 that they would now be going on the offensive. 726 00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:53,790 It was a major shift in Q narrative, 727 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,170 and it was also a notion that I'd heard just days before 728 00:45:58,670 --> 00:46:01,790 out of Ron's mouth as we were coming down the mountain. 729 00:46:01,830 --> 00:46:04,920 Their team might be going on the offensive now. 730 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,750 How in the world did Ron seem to know exactly what Q would post next? 731 00:46:10,830 --> 00:46:14,750 They are moving on the offensive. But I can't speak for Q. 732 00:46:15,170 --> 00:46:19,130 When you're on the offense, you keep as quiet as possible. 733 00:46:19,210 --> 00:46:21,920 When you're strong, you look weak. 734 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,250 When you're weak, you look strong. 735 00:46:27,630 --> 00:46:32,040 By spring of 2019, Q had expanded in its global reach 736 00:46:32,130 --> 00:46:34,710 and increased traffic was coming from around the world 737 00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:38,330 from Germany to Australia. 738 00:46:38,380 --> 00:46:43,500 Although the Q board had become the most popular board on 8chan, 739 00:46:43,540 --> 00:46:46,580 it still sat alongside boards like /pol, 740 00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:49,960 which remained steeped in white supremacist content. 741 00:46:54,330 --> 00:46:58,130 In fact, the users on Pol enjoyed poking fun at QAnons, 742 00:46:58,170 --> 00:47:01,000 annoyed that they were in the same playground. 743 00:47:03,710 --> 00:47:07,880 But the games were about to come to an end. 744 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:14,580 How does, sort of, your ideology fit in with the types of ideologies 745 00:47:14,670 --> 00:47:16,920 that are hosted on your site? 746 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,750 Think of 8chan like a platform or a utility. 747 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,040 A power company has no ideological say 748 00:47:24,130 --> 00:47:27,670 in what the people do with the power that they generate. 749 00:47:30,670 --> 00:47:34,750 Every thread or post is allowed to be created equally. 750 00:47:34,830 --> 00:47:35,960 When someone makes a thread, 751 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,830 we do not go through and approve or disapprove each thread. 752 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:46,130 There's the American model that hate speech is allowed, obscenity is fine. 753 00:47:46,250 --> 00:47:50,540 Just total free speech. The good ideas will win out in the end. 754 00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:54,420 It's very American to only focus on the United States impact of all of us. 755 00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:56,540 But there is a global impact. 756 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,880 MARCH 15, 2019 757 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:05,500 CHRISTCHURCH, NEW ZEALAND 758 00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:16,460 Let's get this party started. 759 00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:24,500 After 200 meters, take the second left, then turn left. 760 00:48:35,830 --> 00:48:37,790 Godspeed anon. 761 00:49:00,290 --> 00:49:02,040 Best of luck. 762 00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:14,960 Who did he kill? 763 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,000 You never did anything. 764 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,710 He did. 765 00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:34,880 A gunman with an automatic weapon has opened fire 766 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,250 on a mosque in Central Christchurch. 767 00:49:37,330 --> 00:49:38,960 We are on standby for a statement 768 00:49:39,130 --> 00:49:41,250 from the prime minister at four o'clock. 769 00:49:41,330 --> 00:49:43,080 NEW ZEALAND MOSQUE ATTACKS 770 00:49:43,170 --> 00:49:46,790 AT LEAST 40 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED 771 00:49:49,630 --> 00:49:52,000 In the aftermath of the shooting, 772 00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:54,960 the world was in a collective state of shock. 773 00:49:58,670 --> 00:50:02,630 The shooter had posted on Twitter, livestreamed on Facebook, 774 00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:06,710 and uploaded their manifesto to numerous sites. 775 00:50:06,830 --> 00:50:11,790 But it was on 8chan where they found a familiar and welcoming audience. 776 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,460 The comments were horrific, 777 00:50:15,540 --> 00:50:19,750 a fact which media outlets around the world gravitated towards. 778 00:50:21,170 --> 00:50:22,750 As soon as this went live, 779 00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:27,040 other members of this community in this thread started kind of egging him on 780 00:50:27,130 --> 00:50:31,380 and celebrating what was happening in this really vile way. 781 00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,920 You know, they left up the Christchurch shooting thread 782 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,460 until they got the maximum number of posts. 783 00:50:36,580 --> 00:50:40,250 It received 750 posts, that's the maximum. 784 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,130 Families and friends of the victims mourned 785 00:50:51,250 --> 00:50:55,040 as community leaders sought ways to prevent such a shooting 786 00:50:55,130 --> 00:50:57,250 from ever happening again. 787 00:50:57,380 --> 00:51:01,130 We call upon governments around the world 788 00:51:01,210 --> 00:51:05,830 to bring an end to hate speech 789 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,000 and the politics of fear. 790 00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:18,790 There is no question 791 00:51:18,830 --> 00:51:24,000 that ideas and language of division and hate have existed for decades. 792 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,710 But the form of distribution, 793 00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:31,580 the tools of organization, they are new. 794 00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:36,290 We cannot simply sit back and accept that these platforms just exist 795 00:51:36,380 --> 00:51:37,670 and that we're to sit on them. 796 00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:41,670 It's not the responsibility of a place where they're published. 797 00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:45,670 They are the publisher, not just the postman. 798 00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:48,460 This terror was born in the darkest corners of the internet 799 00:51:48,540 --> 00:51:50,290 In response, 800 00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:56,130 New Zealand and Australia both banned all access to 8chan, 801 00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:59,000 and pressure mounted to hold websites accountable 802 00:51:59,130 --> 00:52:01,460 for the actions of their users. 803 00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:05,130 MACAU, CHINA 804 00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:07,790 A month after the tragic event in Christchurch, 805 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,000 I met up with Ron in Macau. 806 00:52:11,290 --> 00:52:15,000 He seemed unphased by what had happened, and in some ways, 807 00:52:15,130 --> 00:52:20,250 the international outrage appeared to only strengthen his resolve. 808 00:52:20,330 --> 00:52:22,420 Right after the Christchurch massacre, 809 00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,670 every major news outlet in the world reached out to us 810 00:52:25,790 --> 00:52:28,920 to get our opinion on it, and we ignored them all. 811 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,790 This is the first time I've said anything about it actually. 812 00:52:32,830 --> 00:52:34,080 And all these news outlets, 813 00:52:34,210 --> 00:52:37,420 they're waiting for me to say something wrong so that they can use that 814 00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,670 to push for the closure of 8chan. 815 00:52:39,750 --> 00:52:42,040 8chan is one of many online breeding grounds 816 00:52:42,210 --> 00:52:48,130 for extremist views and violent ideas. So what, if anything, can be done? 817 00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:53,210 Jim Watkins should not keep running boards 818 00:52:53,330 --> 00:52:55,960 that are inciting that kind of violence. 819 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,500 The lunatics are running the asylum. 820 00:52:58,580 --> 00:53:01,960 I think it's going to impact the entire internet negatively 821 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,290 if more manifestos get posted there. 822 00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:08,670 What's your take on the publishing of the manifesto? 823 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,540 Why do you think that people want to take it down? 824 00:53:11,710 --> 00:53:14,540 I think people are worried it's gonna be a... 825 00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:19,290 It's gonna be used to radicalize more people 826 00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:22,960 to do the same thing that he did. 827 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,790 Do you think that that is warranted? 828 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,040 And-and/or do you think that it matters? 829 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,630 It doesn't matter to me. 830 00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:31,830 His document is not illegal, so we're gonna host it. 831 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,130 By banning his text, it would immortalize it actually. 832 00:53:35,710 --> 00:53:39,330 That kind of thing makes it more, like, 833 00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:43,250 it makes it bigger. 834 00:53:49,460 --> 00:53:53,670 This is what I do to strengthen up. Hit. 835 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,500 Two days later 836 00:53:56,670 --> 00:54:00,040 I started learning martial arts from a very young age, 837 00:54:00,130 --> 00:54:04,630 I would say two years old. And I've been working on it since. 838 00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:19,130 There's been a shooting at a synagogue in Poway, 839 00:54:19,210 --> 00:54:20,920 which is about 20 miles northeast of San Diego. 840 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,960 We're learning more about the alleged shooter in some postings 841 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,420 that he made on social media. 842 00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:26,830 That's right, the site is called 8chan. 843 00:54:28,460 --> 00:54:30,170 This happened a few hours ago. 844 00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:33,540 The copycat shooter shot a bunch of people at a synagogue. 845 00:54:33,630 --> 00:54:36,330 I believe there's one reported death and a few injuries, 846 00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:39,170 and this 18, 19-year-old kid made a manifesto, 847 00:54:39,250 --> 00:54:42,250 and then he posted it on at least 8chan, 848 00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:44,250 but maybe in multiple places also. 849 00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:47,130 We deleted the thread within minutes of it being reported to us, 850 00:54:47,250 --> 00:54:49,460 but someone took a screen capture of that, 851 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,630 and they sent it to all the mainstream media groups. 852 00:54:51,710 --> 00:54:53,380 And they're all attacking 8chan now. 853 00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:57,080 A 19-year-old posted anti-Jewish and anti-Trump messages 854 00:54:57,210 --> 00:54:58,290 in an open letter 855 00:54:58,380 --> 00:55:01,670 that law enforcement investigators are calling his manifesto. 856 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:09,380 We're preparing a statement on Twitter about the Poway... Poway? Poway? 857 00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:15,580 Poway. Let's say it's Poway. About the Poway shooter's post. 858 00:55:16,210 --> 00:55:20,250 Okay, so the Poway shooter's post was taken down 859 00:55:20,330 --> 00:55:23,630 within nine minutes 860 00:55:23,710 --> 00:55:28,460 of his thread creation. 861 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,750 Nine minutes. 862 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,420 Within 10 minutes. 863 00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:37,290 Nine looks better. It's more precise. 864 00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:40,920 The only, it's only... Only should only be used once. 865 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,250 There are only, and then the only groups. 866 00:55:43,380 --> 00:55:48,040 The only groups publicizing this crime, giving attention to this criminal, 867 00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:49,540 are the fake news media. 868 00:55:49,630 --> 00:55:52,460 Yeah, in that manifesto, which we did find online... 869 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,000 That's better. It's... 870 00:55:58,130 --> 00:56:02,250 The only groups publicizing this crime, giving attention to this criminal, 871 00:56:02,330 --> 00:56:03,500 are the fake news media. 872 00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:08,170 We are collecting digital evidence, and we're aware of his manifesto. 873 00:56:08,250 --> 00:56:12,040 There are only screencaps available, and no third-party archives exist 874 00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:15,000 since the post was deleted so quickly. 875 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,420 Does it fit within the tweet? It does? 876 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,540 So really punching until it bleeds. 877 00:56:25,630 --> 00:56:29,750 Yeah, and then it'll scar over. It'll be stronger when it scars over. 878 00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:34,330 Okay, I think it looks good. Let's post that. 879 00:56:51,790 --> 00:56:54,040 The shooters posted extremist messages 880 00:56:54,130 --> 00:56:56,380 to an online forum called 8chan. 881 00:56:56,540 --> 00:57:00,330 I don't think that society is gonna tolerate 882 00:57:00,420 --> 00:57:02,960 a site like 8chan for much longer. 883 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:07,380 Hate crimes are up in major U.S. cities, including right here in L.A. 884 00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:11,830 8chan should not continue.